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		<title>Parents Urged to Look Beyond Curriculum Changes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talking with Maree Buscke, Penny Marie says many parents wrongly believe changes promised by the coalition government have removed contentious relationship and sex education content from classrooms. She argues schools continue using third-party resources despite revised guidelines, raising concerns about transparency, parental access to teaching materials and opt-out processes. They explore the delays to the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p>Talking with Maree Buscke, Penny Marie says many parents wrongly believe changes promised by the coalition government have removed contentious relationship and sex education content from classrooms.</p><p>She argues schools continue using third-party resources despite revised guidelines, raising concerns about transparency, parental access to teaching materials and opt-out processes.</p><p>They explore the delays to the new curriculum, the role of advocacy groups and why parents should actively engage with schools to fully know what their children are being taught.</p>								</div>
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		<title>The Platform: Schools Not Longer Required To Consult On Health Curriculum</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 03:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny Marie chats with Sean Plunket on The Platform NZ following her article about the back-story to the activist lobby group and their influence in the judicial review in NZ in with the &#8216;Professional Association of Transgender Healthcare (PATHA). Read Penny&#8217;s related article here. Watch on The Platform]]></description>
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									<p>Penny Marie chats with Sean Plunket on The Platform NZ following her article about the back-story to the activist lobby group and their influence in the judicial review in NZ in with the &#8216;Professional Association of Transgender Healthcare (PATHA). <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/pennymarie/p/why-new-zealand-parents-are-afraid?r=1hl7cl&amp;utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&amp;utm_medium=web" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">Read Penny&#8217;s related article here</a>.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Sex-Based Rights &#038; Conversion Therapy: A Warning For Wales &#038; The UK &#8211; From NZ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On April 18 2026, Public Child Protection Wales hosted their second annual conference. This year they invited founding members of the International Child Protection Taskforce (ICPT) to speak. ICPT specialises in researching in the educational, philosophical, legal and financial histories of how we ended up here &#8211; with children throughout western nations being subjected to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>On April 18 2026, Public Child Protection Wales hosted their second annual conference.</p>
<p>This year they invited founding members of the International Child Protection Taskforce (ICPT) to speak.</p>
<p>ICPT specialises in researching in the educational, philosophical, legal and financial histories of how we ended up here &#8211; with children throughout western nations being subjected to sexualised education material and contested ideologies.</p>
<p>Penny Marie was privileged to join ICPT counterparts, bringing her latest findings including a timeline of how the Conversion Practices Prohibition Act 2022 was strategically curated into NZ legislation.</p>
<p>It was never needed. The UK doesn&#8217;t need it now, despite the pressure and noise from activists.</p>
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		<title>The Dark Roots Of Comprehensive Sexuality Education (CSE), SOGI &#038; RSE: National Citizens Inquiry CA</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 23:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny gave this presentation at the NATIONAL CITIZENS INQUIRY in Canada on November 8 2025. The inquiry sought to answer the question &#8216;Are Children Safe In Canada?&#8217; Warning: Contains some graphic content. Explores who is behind the theories and ideologies that now assault our children in many western nations, that have come largely through the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">Penny gave this presentation at the NATIONAL CITIZENS INQUIRY in Canada on November 8 2025. The inquiry sought to answer the question &#8216;Are Children Safe In Canada?&#8217; </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">Warning: Contains some graphic content. </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">Explores who is behind the theories and ideologies that now assault our children in many western nations, that have come largely through the United Nations/UNESCO into our classrooms. </span></p>								</div>
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									<p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">COMPREHENSIVE SEXUALITY EDUCATION (CSE) <br /></span><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">In Canada this is known as SOGI or SOGI123. In other parts of the world it’s called CSE, or Relationships &amp; Sexuality Education, RSE &#8211; as is the case in New Zealand. </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">SOGI ISN&#8217;T SEX EDUCATION <br />For those who may still think our kids are being taught what we were taught in school &#8211; about biology, how babies are made, and healthy relationships… NO. It’s not even in the name. </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">SOGI stands for &#8216;sexual orientation&#8217; (teaching children about everything but monogamous heterosexual &#8211; or monogamous homosexual &#8211; relationships) and &#8216;gender identity&#8217;. </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">THE VIDEO ABOVE GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF THE THEORIES AND PEDAGOGY THAT HAVE PERMEATED &#8216;HEALTH&#8217; PROGRAMMES AND THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AS A WHOLE: </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">1. &#8216;Sexual from birth&#8217; theory &#8211; Alfred Kinsey <br /></span><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">2. &#8216;Gender&#8217; theory &#8211; John Money <br />3. &#8216;Queer&#8217; theory &#8211; Michel Foucalt, Judith Butler, Prof Emma Renold <br />4. Critical pedagogy, (pedagogy means ‘educational approach’) with Paulo Freire </span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">NATIONAL CITIZENS INQUIRY </span><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto"><br /><a class="yt-core-attributed-string__link yt-core-attributed-string__link--call-to-action-color" tabindex="0" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVBFUXJCV2JMZHdSM1EweFF2b21DTzBKZTRTZ3xBQ3Jtc0trYmdQVFFFOHprNk54ZS1CaGlySGUzQk1vUVQ5cUF0ZkVLOE93aVBoTDZxUmRuNEpvU2MxT1BSWU1pdW5MM1FZZndzUl84b2dpbEVaZG10R09ad1NTa2pkYnpQR1hVeDJqVnpITW1OdFV6UEdHMm1hUQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalcitizensinquiry.ca%2F&amp;v=V9wyyF2XW34" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca</a></span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">PENNY MARIE <br /><a href="http://www.pennymarie.nz" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">www.pennymarie.nz </a></span></p><p><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">LET KIDS BE KIDS NZ <br /></span><span class="yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color" dir="auto">www.letkidsbekids.nz</span></p>								</div>
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		<title>Trans Kids &#8211; The Politics Of Capture with Michelle Pearse, Dr Julie Sladden, Penny Marie &#038; Mike Ryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2025 08:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny Marie of LKBK along with Michelle Pearse and Dr Julie Sladden on &#8220;The World Today&#8221;,  a current affairs program which delivers national and international news and analysis to audiences globally. In this video, host Mike Ryan asks a panel to help us understand why our politicians are supportive of these cruel treatment of children, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p>Penny Marie of LKBK along with Michelle Pearse and Dr Julie Sladden on &#8220;The World Today&#8221;,  a current affairs program which delivers national and international news and analysis to audiences globally. In this video, host Mike Ryan asks a panel to help us understand why our politicians are supportive of these cruel treatment of children, who or what forces &#8211; corporate, or medical are behind this phenomena of trans kids and how they have been so influential. What is what is the ultimate agenda of these social engineers and political apparatchiks and why are so many of us oblivious to the harm being done to our children before our eyes.</p>								</div>
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		<title>NZ Update: Puberty Blockers, Media Bias, University &#8216;Experts&#8217; Vs Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[letkidsbekids]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The media is awash with response to the NZ Governments&#8217; annoucement on pausing puberty blocker prescriptions. Listen in to Penny Marie&#8217;s take&#8230; References to the articles and documents she discusses, are in this Substack. https://youtu.be/5z6hwMUNiRE?si=nYdxY3ZvgXWTwXhf]]></description>
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									<p>The media is awash with response to the NZ Governments&#8217; annoucement on pausing puberty blocker prescriptions. Listen in to Penny Marie&#8217;s take&#8230; References to the articles and documents she discusses, are in <a href="https://www.pennymarie.nz/p/nz-update-puberty-blockers-media?r=1hl7cl&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">this Substack</a>.</p>								</div>
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		<title>Penny Marie On The Anti-Trans Extremism Document Published By NZ Police</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[letkidsbekids]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sharing data on the ANTI TRANSGENDER EXTREMISM book by GENDER MINORITIES AOTEAROA (the name says it all&#8230;) Funded by the NZ Govt and available on the NZ Police website. Watch most of the interview for free below and the full conversation is on The Platform NZ. https://youtu.be/2M01cbuctGk?si=eWujumoapKqkvT1c]]></description>
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									<p>Sharing data on the <strong><span class="r-b88u0q">ANTI TRANSGENDER EXTREMISM</span></strong> book by <a href="https://genderminorities.com/resources/activism/" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow"><span class="r-b88u0q">GENDER MINORITIES AOTEAROA</span></a> (the name says it all&#8230;) Funded by the NZ Govt and <a href="https://www.police.govt.nz/contact-us/local-contacts/diversity-liaison-officers" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">available on the NZ Police website</a>.</p>
<p>Watch most of the interview for free below and the full conversation is on <a href="https://theplatform.kiwi" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">The Platform NZ</a>.</p>								</div>
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		<title>The Platform: Penny Marie On The &#8216;Lil Gay Out&#8217; School Event</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 05:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Latest Update on Substack Penny Marie published a revealing exposé of Lil Gay Out, an annual event put on at an Auckland secondary school,  which resulted, days after, in its cancellation.  The school sited&#8217; health and safety concerns&#8217; due to a &#8216;possible protest&#8217; as their reason for cancelling the event. The New Zealand Herald then [&#8230;]]]></description>
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									<p>Penny Marie published a revealing exposé of Lil Gay Out, an annual event put on at an Auckland secondary school,  which resulted, days after, in its cancellation. </p><p>The school sited&#8217; health and safety concerns&#8217; due to a &#8216;possible protest&#8217; as their reason for cancelling the event.</p><p>The New Zealand Herald then published an article quoting the schools reasons for cancelling, however no evidence has been seen on a possible protest threat. </p><p>Penny Marie was invited onto The Platform for an in-depth discussion into this and the much bigger situation. </p><p>Thank you to The Platform for deciding to publish the entire hour-longer conversation, including a father who called in to share his heart-wrenching story. </p><p>Perhaps this is a watershed conversation, that will invite more people who have been silenced, to speak up. For our children&#8217;s sakes.</p>								</div>
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		<link>https://letkidsbekids.nz/a-conversation-with-cam-slater-the-good-oil-podcast/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[letkidsbekids]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 00:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://youtu.be/hZyVoXTz15M?si=Lz2RQn9fSjO2evp9 Grap a cuppa and tune in… as Penny Marie joins Cam Slater for an authentic, gutsy conversation, about a wide range of topics. We also offer tips to mums, dads and grandparents who are traversing some of the current challenges with their kids and schools. Watch on YouTube Also on Penny&#8217;s Substack]]></description>
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									<p>Grap a cuppa and tune in… as Penny Marie joins Cam Slater for an authentic, gutsy conversation, about a wide range of topics.</p><p>We also offer tips to mums, dads and grandparents who are traversing some of the current challenges with their kids and schools.</p>								</div>
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